Dronecast: Rethinking Public Safety, One Drone at a Time
From the Archives: Beyond Flight Currency: Pilot Proficiency, Drone Legislation, and Community Trust with Jason Burnside
July 28, 2026
In part two of this conversation on DroneCast: Rethinking Public Safety, One Drone at a Time, host John McLeod sits down with Jason Burnside, Program Manager for the Austin Fire Department RED Team. They dive deep into practical pilot proficiency strategies, navigating complex foreign-drone legislation, innovative program funding through leasing, and building deep community trust through absolute operational transparency.
Original Recording Date: January 2, 2024

In Part 2 of this episode of DroneCast: Rethinking Public Safety, One Drone at a Time, host John McLeod continues his conversation with Jason Burnside, Program Manager for the Austin Fire Department’s Robotics Emergency Deployment (RED) Team.

Jason shares operational insights on moving beyond basic flight currency to achieve true pilot proficiency. He outlines how Austin FD maintains high-performing pilots through monthly fly days, intentional practice routines, custom web app task books, and drone simulation software. The discussion tackles critical public safety industry shifts, including the impact of anti-China drone legislation on municipal budgets, data security double standards, and practical methods for demystifying drones to earn community trust.

Additionally, Jason details high-impact management decisions—such as utilizing lease-to-buy models to stretch funding for emerging tools like 3D spatial mapping—and warns against common "poison pills" that destroy embryonic drone programs. Finally, he previews the ongoing work of the IAFF/IAFC Robotics Working Group to create open-source, standardized national blueprints for first responders nationwide.

Why This Episode Still Matters Today: 

As public safety agencies across the country face tightening municipal budgets, rapid technological evolutions, and impending legislative bans on foreign-made drone hardware, Jason Burnside delivers an indispensable roadmap for program longevity. His emphasis on intent-driven pilot practice, creative hardware leasing, and proactive community engagement offers an evergreen playbook for program managers striving to keep their operations effective, financially viable, and trusted by the communities they serve 


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